To mark International Women’s Day 2024, NDY’s Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Auckland teams hosted a unique hybrid panel event on Thursday 7 March 2024, celebrating the official United Nations (UN) entity for gender equality and the empowerment of women theme Invest in women: Accelerate progress.

This year’s theme, as it has been in the most recent past, is aligned to Goal 5: Gender Equality of the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals.

The targets set for goal 5 are focused broadly on ending discrimination, providing girls and women with reproductive freedom, freedom from violence and finally, economic freedom and with that leadership roles at decision making tables.

The UN’s latest gender snapshot, which was released last year, starkly notes that globally over US$360 billion extra investment per year on gender equality measures is needed for us to achieve these targets by 2030.

During a lively discussion our panellists explored the underlying theme of leadership and the elements needed to get more women at the table. Here are our key takeaways:

Fund women, because they’re good, not just because they’re women

According to Pitchbook ‘In 2023, companies founded solely by women garnered just 2% of the total capital invested in venture-backed startups in the US.’

Dr Angela Lim echoed this data, ‘One of the things that I was actively trying to do last year was to raise capital for the company to expand our business.

‘And actually about 40% of women start businesses, but less than 2% of women receive venture capital or investor dollars. So the common assumption is, women aren’t even starting that many businesses. That’s why they have a smaller proportion of the funds. So that’s completely untrue. And so when I started raising capital, I was very conscious of that.

‘And so I wanted to use the metrics to mitigate some of those biases. So, we had what we call product metrics. So we knew, for example, that compared to other mental health applications out there, we had ten times more use than these other applications. We looked at growth metrics or sales metrics.

‘So we were doubling and tripling year-on-year for 3 years in a row with pretty much non-existent marketing spend. And so you think, okay, well this must be a really exciting business proposition for these investors. And mental health obviously was a growing need, especially post-COVID. And they will say to me, really great metrics, but I just don’t have conviction that you would be successful.

‘And it’s just a roundabout way of saying you don’t look like a young white man and so therefore you must not be this unicorn company that they could be. So I think really just being very mindful when we think about ensuring equitable opportunities for diverse communities or marginalised communities, that we are holding those biases with our unconscious or conscious in check.’

Dr Angela Lim

Founder, Clearhead

April Walker

Founder, Western Australia Spaceport

Overwhelmingly though, female entrepreneurs and founders want to be seen to succeed based on their merits, not just their gender. ‘I don’t want to see VC funding because of my gender. I want to receive funding or government grants because my venture contributes to government strategy or space. What is the most probable product of success for that venture strategy? I would be mortified if that was the reason why I received venture funding or government grant over, say, a male who had a better idea than me. That would just break my heart.’ says April Walker.

Sponsor, don’t just mentor

According to the Harvard Business Review while mentorship focuses on help that a mentor can provide directly, such as guidance, advice, feedback on skills and coaching, sponsorship entails externally facing support, such as advocacy, visibility, promotion and connections. Seeing sponsorship as a three-way relationship between sponsors, protégés and an audience clarifies the difference between it and mentorship.

Georgina Mahony puts it this way, ‘I’ve been very fortunate to have incredible sponsorship and I want to differentiate that word to people. It’s really important. Women always talk about mentorship. What you need more, in my experience, in the workplace is sponsorship.

‘And that’s not just other women. That’s men in the room sponsoring women. So I was very lucky. Some of my key early leadership roles. I had fabulous male managers who said, nah, she’s capable, and they actually put their neck out in meetings and said give her a go. I now feel that’s really incumbent on me to do the same thing.’

‘But sponsors, and particularly to the men in this room, are some of the most important relationships, and I guess also some of my biggest growth in my career has also been as I got more senior and that executive coaching, that ability for you to step beyond the next stage and understand where you’re at.

‘So I think having that ability for women to step up and lead is really important.’

Georgina Mahony

Director, Ediom

The built environment influences the social environment

Contemporary sustainability practices in our industry are holistic in their perspective, considering the entire environmental, social and governance impact of buildings. This approach is built into the framework of ratings tools such as WELL and Green Star, with the influence changing how workplaces address gender equality. Zoe Neill sees how this approach has played a key role in advancing gender equality and empowerment, ‘I really like talking about tracking data and different issues that women struggle with in the workplace, because I think it’s that data that allows certifying bodies such as the Green Building Council of Australia and WELL to really develop tools that drive that change.’

‘They have a number of different credits and features that talk specifically to women struggling to go back to the workplace because they have different responsibilities to deal with. So for example, in WELL they have a number of features that encourage businesses and clients to consider lactation rooms, so that women returning to the workforce after having children can still have the ability to manage both facets of their life.

‘Also looking at policies that allow the re-onboarding of mothers and policies around flexible working and childcare support. It’s actually a great opportunity too for tools to drive that additional sustainability into integrated spaces. And with Green Star similarly in their latest update, they have an entire credit around how do we integrate underrepresented groups into our construction sites and that includes women.

‘They give a number of guidelines on building up an effective action plan to do that. And I think it’s really great that, one, we live in a world where these rating tools are driving that additional aspect of sustainability, and two, there’s a lot of companies picking them up and probably implementing them even without that.’

Zoe Neill

NSW Sustainability Lead, NDY

Empowering through education

According to the UN increasing women’s and girls’ education contributes to women’s economic empowerment. Education, upskilling, and re-skilling—especially to keep pace with rapid technological transformations affecting jobs—are critical for women’s and girls’ health and wellbeing, as well as their income-generation opportunities and participation in the formal labour market.

Neill Johanson talked from his own experience in Nepal about the impact education can have on communities, ‘Change is possible. We are seeing that and one of the things that I think is coming through today is education and educating, not just helping the teachers, helping the young girls and women, but also educating the parents.’

Neill Johanson

Principal, Davenport Campbell

Watch the event recording

Extra Questions For Our Panelists

Our in person and online audience was very engaged in the conversation – submitting so many questions during the session that our panel couldn’t address them all. Neill Johanson took some time to answer his favorite questions from the audience in context of his reflections on a revelatory dialogue with his wife, which challenged his previous perceptions and highlighted the importance of inclusive decision-making. This candid exchange revealed missed opportunities for mutual success.

To Neill, You mentioned that you missed the conversation with your wife on her career. 20 years on, what conversations have you had with your daughter since?

Great question.

We often speak about not being heard, that could be at work, with friends and at home as well so we have had conversations about picking a partner who hears you. Without that planning, a career, becomes very lopsided.

Neill, if you could go back 20 years, what would you do differently? Would you have been prepared to take a different path or take longer to get there?

I spoke to may partner about this a few days after the IWD event and tried to imagine a different me. Our conversation, back then, should have started with ‘what is the right thing to do’, rather than ‘what’s right for me’.

I made lots of assumptions to reinforce my position without truly exploring what we could achieve together by mutually supporting each other. The outcome may have been the same or completely different but what I failed to do was invest time in our relationship to talk through all the things that needed to be resolved.

Meet Our Panelists

Dr Angela Lim
Dr Angela LimCEO & Co-founder | Clearhead
Dr. Angela Lim is CEO and co-founder of Clearhead. Trained as a medical doctor and having completed research at the Harvard School of Public Health, Angela’s passion for tackling inequality led her to believe that technology has the best potential to drastically improve health outcomes. Having sat on more than 15 boards, she understands the importance of good governance and the importance of managing health and safety risks effectively.

That is why Angela started Clearhead in 2018, an innovative workplace wellbeing EAP provider that takes a holistic and proactive approach to wellbeing to ensure personalised mental health care is accessible to everyone. Clearhead’s unique value proposition focused on supporting businesses to understand their employees better through employee wellbeing data insights, to drive systemic culture change and empower them with innovative digital wellbeing tools to support themselves and others, will lead to the better outcomes that Angela is motivated to create in the world.

Georgina Mahony
Georgina MahonyDirector
Georgina is a founding Director of Ediom and has over 20 years experience in the delivery of major infrastructure projects including rail, roads, water and airports. She specialises in Design and Engineering Management of integrated teams for large multi-discipline projects having lead teams of up to 250 people.

She places a strong emphasis on forming collaborative teams that foster a positive culture whilst simultaneously driving value and delivery outcomes. Georgina received the 2021 NAWIC Victoria Award for Outstanding Achievement as a Businesswoman and Ediom won the Small Business Excellence award with Consult Australia in 2022.

Georgina and Ediom’s co-founder, Terry Cotton, are extremely proud of building Ediom to over 30 people including a 44% female employment rate. Georgina truly believes that it is not that hard to create a culture that allows women and men to thrive if you truly value people’s differences (even in construction!).

Neill Johanson
Neill JohansonPrincipal | Davenport Campbell & Partners
Neill is an architect and mountaineer and co-owns Davenport Campbell, a company known for helping organisations transform their workspaces. In addition to his professional endeavours, Neill has been actively involved in philanthropy.

In 2016, Neill initiated the “Educate and Elevate” program, a collaborative effort with the Australian Himalayan Foundation and the National Association of Women in Construction. This program focuses on rebuilding remote school communities in Nepal. Its primary goals include lifting young girls from poverty and providing young female teachers with the necessary skills for their professional development. This initiative is particularly crucial in a country where the median marriage age for girls is 17.

Davenport Campbell is notable for its commitment to gender equality, with women leading the studios in Melbourne, Sydney and Canberra, and occupying most leadership roles within the company.

Beyond his professional and philanthropic pursuits, Neill has achieved the remarkable feat of climbing Mount Everest.

April Walker
April WalkerFounder | Western Australia Spaceport & Azimuth
April Walker is the founder of Western Australia Spaceport and Azimuth.

Based in the City of Albany, WA Spaceport and Azimuth will attribute to Australia’s sovereign launch capability by delivering on the vision, ‘Space technology and exploration are possible for those who wish to pursue it’.

April has a bachelor’s degree in Applied Science from Queensland University of Technology and is a Master of Business Administration candidate from AGSM at University of New South Wales.

April’s professional career comprises of complex defence, infrastructure, health and commercial projects across Australia.

Zoe Neill
Zoe NeillNSW Sustainability Lead | NDY
Zoe leads NDY’s Sydney sustainability team, demonstrating a deep passion and understanding of how places, buildings and fitouts are designed and then operated. Her expertise in advising clients on optimal solutions for financial and environmental goals is well-regarded, evidenced by her recent ‘Green Star Champion 2023’ award from the Green Building Council of Australia. This accolade recognises her significant contributions to a more sustainable built environment.

Zoe’s involvement in industry events highlights her commitment to sharing knowledge on the latest sustainability trends and technologies. She is particularly known for her innovative approaches to integrating sustainability in practical and impactful ways.

Working across sectors like healthcare, commercial and education, Zoe excels in sustainability ratings, advisory, people management and collaboration. She is known for her proactive approach, leading her team to meet challenging deadlines and exceed expectations. Zoe’s role is a testament to her skills and dedication, contributing directly to gender equality in the engineering field.

And introducing our MC and opening speaker

Our MC

Cara Waters
Cara WatersCity Editor | The Age
Cara Waters is the city editor at The Age. She was previously a corporate lawyer before retraining as a journalist. She is married with two children.

Opening comments

Stuart Fowler
Stuart FowlerPresident, Tetra Tech High Performance Buildings Group & CEO, NDY
As NDY’s Chief Executive Officer, Stuart maintains overall responsibility for the company.

Stuart is an expert in the field of building mechanical, electrical, and plumbing (MEP) services design with an extensive resume of successful project achievements. He is a skilled communicator, with strong commercial focus, and a demonstrable record of driving successful outcomes in multi-regional business settings.

In addition to leading NDY, in 2021 Stuart was promoted to President of Tetra Tech’s High Performance Buildings Division, with overall responsibility for Tetra Tech’s global high-end engineering design capability in the built environment. The High Performance Buildings Division includes NDY plus affiliates Hoare Lea in the United Kingdom, and Cosentini, Glumac and Tetra Tech’s Critical Buildings Infrastructure Unit in the United States.

Stuart has a genuine passion for NDY people, and for the relentless pursuit of service excellence to clients. He is proud to be part of the engineering profession, leading the delivery of projects and solutions that improve the lives of people, and communities, around the world.